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	<title>Comments for What&apos;s Wrong with California, Nevada, Arizona and Florida?</title>
	
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		<published>2009-06-19T16:53:00Z</published>
		<updated>2009-06-19T16:50:37Z</updated>
		<title>What&apos;s Wrong with California, Nevada, Arizona and Florida?</title>
		<summary>Unemployment numbers are out for 48 states, and for some states they are record-setting in all the wrong ways. Congratulations are in order for Nebraska and Vermont, the only two states to not report increases. But why is it that...</summary>
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			<name>Derek Thompson</name>
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			<![CDATA[Unemployment numbers are <a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124541908041431401.html">out</a> for 48 states, and for some states they are record-setting in all the wrong ways. Congratulations are in order for Nebraska and Vermont, the only two states to not report increases. But why is it that whenever these awful reports come out, the same four or five state always grab the headlines?<br />]]>
			<![CDATA[<br />The Wall Street Journal reports that eight states, including California
and Nevada, have set records for unemployment. Meanwhile, Arizona and
Florida had the worst month in overall layoffs. Remember those four states,
because we keep seeing their name in every depressing report about
foreclosures, credit and jobs. They each have their own distinct awful
qualities.<br />
<br />
Florida and the fiscal black hole formerly known as California were the
epicenters of the foreclosure earthquake in 2008 (see graph below), and
today they're home to<a href="http://www.forbes.com/2009/05/20/american-consumers-overspending-lifestyle-real-estate-credit-card-debt.html"> eight of the top ten worst cities</a> for credit card debt.<br />
<span class="mt-enclosure mt-enclosure-image" style="display: inline;"><img alt="foreclosures.png" src="http://business.theatlantic.com/foreclosures.png" class="mt-image-center" style="margin: 0pt auto 20px; text-align: center; display: block;" height="379" width="415" /></span>
You can also see the blue mark of death beginning to spread to parts of Nevada and Arizona in the picture. And the problems there continue. In 2008 the worst percentage plunge
in jobs was in Arizona, at 5.2 percent. And the most dramatic collapse
in home prices last year? It was Nevada. The next three, if you even
had to ask, were California, Florida and Arizona.<br /><br />
<span class="mt-enclosure mt-enclosure-image" style="display: inline;"><img alt="statehomeprices.png" src="http://business.theatlantic.com/statehomeprices.png" class="mt-image-center" style="margin: 0pt auto 20px; text-align: center; display: block;" height="220" width="516" /></span>
You might be asking, What about Michigan? Michigan is also a disaster,
leading the nation in unemployment at 14 percent, which will only get
worse as GM barrels through a difficult bankruptcy and the state
struggles to make the switch to green tech and manufacturing, which is
its stated goal.<br />]]>
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		<title>Comment from ed on 2009-06-19</title>
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				<name>ed</name>
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				<![CDATA[<p>The home building boom in those states created enormous numbers of jobs.  When the carpenters, masons, electricians, etc are working, they buy cars or trucks, or TVs, or go out to dinner, or even buy houses.  When they're out of work, they stop spending, resulting in other business drops and more layoffs.  </p>

<p>When people buy those homes, they spend more.  They buy things like furniture, plants, rugs, etc.  They  might hire a landscaper.  They might have an electrician install new ceiling fixtures.   When the sale of houses dries up, so does that spending.</p>

<p>When the people who are laid off because their business related to sales of new homes, and resales, they stop spending.  Local sellers cut back ads, leading to layoffs at advertising media.  Then the people laid off there stop spending.  </p>

<p>It's a giant round robin effect.  It happens everywhere that there is a large localized boom that goes bust.  </p>]]>
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		<published>2009-06-19T21:07:21Z</published>
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		<title>Comment from slocket on 2009-06-20</title>
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				<name>slocket</name>
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				<![CDATA[<p>Hopefuelly California's green job movevement will turn these numbers around a little bit</p>

<p>www.hirejamca.com</p>

<p>Cali Green Jobs</p>]]>
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		<published>2009-06-20T20:26:09Z</published>
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